It was fun participating in a BaZi pop-quiz organized by JLim in the now ‘reborn’ fivearts.info forum… In this challenge, JLim asked;
“Today is Valentine's day. Let's have a quiz about love... and separation. Choose when this lady married and then quickly divorced; 2007 Ding Hai, 2009 Ji Chou, 2011 Xin Mao, 2013 Gui Si, 2015 Yi Wei. Please choose one year only, and your reasoning using any method (Bazi, ZWDS, Liu Yao, QMDJ, Meihua, Tarot, Mahjong divination etc.). +6 karma points for the correct answer with reasoning. A simple reasoning will do. No karma point for correct answer but without reasoning at all. The Chinese hour is correct with or without adjustment to solar time. I will announce the answer after at least 15 people participate. But I will only send my Bazi analysis by pm to those who participate.”
True enough, none of the 15 participants participated are BIG NAMES, liked – “You Know Who…”. Those participated are all small fries including JayTee. The Big Names have reputation to keep, imagine what if they answer wrongly? For the small fries liked JayTee, it is a good opportunity to test out their wits and to make sure that they are confident enough to just give – one answer, without having to revise their answer at one go… You just cannot simply say, maybe… might be… could be… in real audits. You have to know your arts well minus the guessing games. This challenge is even more interesting because, JLim wanted the participant to write down, how do they derive their decision… OMG… you must read the commentary as it is the most intriguing dynamics among the various arts on display from the so commonly known ZiPing to ‘No Name’ divination techniques all in one go – Superb! Yet, none of the 15 participants, I presumed, would have known who this BaZi chart belongs to…
Later, JLim broke the news by saying;
“The answer is 2011 XinMao. She married and divorced in the same year! Thank you to quiz participants! Her husband was a policeman, who loved to gamble. He gambled a lot of their money and lost everything. Because of this, they got into a huge fight and divorced. As of end of 2015, she was still single. I see that she will marry twice in her life. More Bazi details on how to see wealth loss, her marriage and divorce later through PM.”
Dawn upon the participants that only 4 out of the 15 make the correct predictions. Among these 4 are the so common technique of ZiPing BaZi served raw – no acrobatic pictorial method or something similar… Who says ZiPing BaZi cannot use? The aftermath was a series of self-reflections and soul searching and one in particular, caught our attention;
“The answer is right there! Mao clashes with Subject You and at the same time combines with the Object Xu. Very straight forward, yet is unseen. It is so much easier to read the hexagram when you know the answer eh?”
So, it does really make more sense with post-diction instead of pre-diction, right? That’s life… That is the reason why many BaZi teachers love to use post-diction of known celebrities to showcase their skills. It is simply very exciting when you work backward to narrow down to an observation. Only good teacher would do a life expose of all his/her students without prior notice in class to be testified by the students themselves… If your teacher don’t do that, you better run away far-far…
In fact, the good old fashioned, ZiPing BaZi has not really lost its teeth… Someone did say;
“There are many-many BaZi theories around.
The one used most often is referring to the month as the anchor.
Another theory refers to the month for structure only and not for strength.
Another refers to heaven, earth and man. Meaning calculated using all the 8 palaces.
The least well known theory refers to resources and resources only, nothing else…”
You can see, there are many ways to skin the cat… Yet, how many can it be used? That is the Question?
THE ZIPING DYNAMICS
Assuming that it is not born in season, it is rendered a weak chart, favouring resource and self. Here we determined the strength of the Day Stem to be in consistent with modern ZiPing approach.
Fast forward, narrow down to the spouse star, high possibility is when the Xin辛 is protruding. Why we say, Xin辛 as the spouse star instead of the officer star? Someone did say, “Wei and BingXu are Spouse Stars, while Wu is Spouse Palace.” This is one problem with ZiPing… What exactly is what?
Bing丙 is the officer star to Geng 庚. The Home Palace have Wei未 and Wu午 combination. Will that form fire? Mind you there is a constant clash between Chou丑 and Wei未, how to combine? Different school, different stroke again…
Assuming it does not, this Geng 庚 is still sitting on her officer Wu午. Is this officer官 star favourable to Geng 庚? Again this come to the question of Officer and Killing 官杀, different school, different stroke…
Someone suggests, “Mao combines to move Wei, so marriage occurred.” Look at this carefully, Mao卯 combine with Xu戌 also forming fire. Will it transform? Which season do we look into? Different school, different stroke… Will Wei未 combine after being clashed by Chou丑?
Someone suggests, “Xin as Rob Wealth is inauspicious in this chart.” Look at this carefully again… How can Xin辛 be an unfavourable god to a weak Geng 庚? Isn’t a weak chart favours Self and Resource?
Maybe this is the reason, “The chart works by Geng combining with Yi, but Xin clashing Yi is inauspicious, leading to wealth loss.” Look at this extreme carefully… How do Geng庚 combine with Yi乙 when it is so far apart? Really, cannot figure this out…
The final straw, “The divorce happened in LP Bing Xu, because this LP is the "arrival" of Xu to punish Wei and Mao AP also combines to trigger Xu.”, Look at this extreme carefully… XinMao 辛卯 cannot just come and combine away without negotiating with BingXu 丙戌. Don’t even know if such has already been activated yet… Again, different school, different stroke…
THE IMAGERY DYNAMICS
GengWu 庚午 lady as was described by one website – “… the KING maker. Geng the raw iron is useless when it is not forge, with Ding fire, it forge itself into Axe - a tool that know no fear. Geng the most vicious sitting on Ding its very own Direct Officer which is the cardinal force. This give it the ability to be righteous. Ding fire shine the clear path in times of darkness, it’s the very fire that remove fear, remove all doubt. GengWu has a resilient personality. They get thing done quickly and swift. Ding give them clear sight and detail while still being elegant like the night star in a clear sky.”
When Bing meet Xin – “Bing 丙 Fire + Xin 辛 Metal = Water. Water epitomized being stray and betrayal. Bing 丙 Fire is passion while Xin 辛 Metal is beauty, over indulgence in woman, wine & music. Chinese has a saying that see money (Xin) turn into Water 见财化水. Fire countering metal. Bing丙 Fire, pictorially liked a Sun, now will literally melting away the small Xin 辛 Metal.” We seriously don’t know how could that be? The Sun only make the metal shines brighter! “In exchange the transformation produce Wisdom (Water). Transformation only happen in the month of Chen (辰) Dragon, Shen (申) Monkey, Hai (亥) Pig & Zi (子) Rat.”
In conclusion, she is hype out being get thing done quickly and swift and marrying the guy. Only to find that see money (Xin) turn into Water 见财化水. Trouble. She took the noble step as Geng the raw iron is useless when it is not forge, with Ding fire, it forge itself into Axe - a tool that know no fear. She divorce him. End of story…
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Let’s contemplate on one of this statement –
USEFUL GOD 用神 USEFUL?
In contemporary BaZi 八字, the emphasis is in the strength 强弱 of the Day Stem 日主元神. A strong or weak chart will determined the Useful God 用神. This Useful God 用神 is naturally the element favourable to the chart. A weak chart needs to be strengthened and a strong chart needs to be weakened. The elements that strengthened the weak chart or weaken the strong chart are called Favourable God 吉神 while the reverse are called Unfavourable God 忌神. It is useful when you know how to determine the strength 强弱 of the Day Stem 日主元神. This could pose a lot of challenges especially with different schools holding different points of view about many other miscellaneous criteria, supposing the rule of combination and transformations, the rule on earth seasons and so forth… They never seem to agree with one another often resulted in cases liked, strong but not so strong, weak but not so weak…
In classical approach, the emphasis is on the Useful God 用神, not the Day Stem 日主元神. This Useful God 用神 is the God in-command 用事之神, determined by the Month Commander月令. It is not necessarily to be your Favourable God 吉神, as it could just be an Unfavourable God 忌神 as well. Therefore, the traditional approaches boil down to the quality of the Useful God 用神. These qualities are known as Having Affection 有情 or Having Strength 有力. Having Affection 有情 means the Useful God 用神 is being used the appropriate ways and Having Strength 有力 means the Useful God 用神 is being used to strengthen the Day Stem 日主元神. They mean different things altogether. It is useful when you know how to use the Useful God 用神 in the manner of Having Affection 有情 or Having Strength 有力 in a way that Favourable God 吉神 are supported and protected, Unfavourable God 忌神 are restraint and transformed.
SUCH A THING AS USEFUL GOD 用神?
Traditionally, useful God 用神 is derived from the Month Branch that is commonly known as a Month Commander月令. A branch may concealed more than one elements. The Commanding God 用事之神 must be the most dominant element hidden within the Month Branch. This is to qualify as the Commanding God 用事之神 of a particular Solar Term. How to decide on the most dominant element is again, different school different stroke… This Month Branch may also subject to movement and stillness 动静. As to how it move and kept still 动静 is again, different school different stroke… This is a problem! Ultimately, there is a Useful God 用神 subject that one understand clearly as to how to identify the dominant element and determine its movement and stillness 动静.
Modern approach, useful God 用神 is derived from the strength of the Day Stem 强弱. This goes by the mantra of In-Season 挡候, In-Location 挡位 and In-Formation 挡局.These three factors that contributed to the Day Stem 日主元神 require the Useful God 用神 to arbitrate 扶抑, to medicate 病药 or to adjust 调候. There is a Useful God 用神 of different technique for different situation. Ultimately, reaching to a near perfect chart of CaiGuan Yin 财官印.
HOW MANY TIMES WHEN YOUR USEFUL GOD 用神 APPEAR AND YOUR LIFE GOT NO IMPROVEMENT?
This is a compounded question. First, how many times when your Useful God appear? Second, if it appears, why your life got no improvement?
Let’s attempt the first limb of the question. Useful God may appear many times, through the dynamic part of your BaZi – the Luck Pillar and the Annual Pillar. Assuming, that your useful god is fire. This year DingYou 丁酉 may bring about the fire Qi require. A number of Chinese Academies such as Money squeezing Academy of chinese metaphysics (MsAocm), may say that DingYou 丁酉 comes in after LiChun 3 February 2017, Friday 10:36pm. Therefore you suppose to bank in money during this day to activate the “丁”… Is that true?
We also need to ask when is the actual arrival of the Useful God 用神? One conventional way state that, the first half of the year is governed by Ding 丁 while the second half is governed by You 酉? Is that also true? When will the Ding丁 or the You 酉 have impact on you? Will the You 酉 TaiSui full-fledged force be impacted upon you on the Yin寅 month or the Si巳-You酉-Chou丑 month or the Chen辰 month? Many stroke, different outcome.
One method probably coined Qi Flow Method 氣流法 go as far as to measure the actual progresses or retrograde of these elements through various means such as star conjunctions, planetary movements and eclipses. In such case, even if the Ding丁 is observed, with the real absent of the fire Qi, will you still get to enjoy the fire Qi? Probably such gave the answer to the second limb of the question - even when your useful god appear why your life still got no improvement?
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