OLD FOX'S TALE...
We posted in our FB page, detail HERE and we found that not many people knows about SanYuan...
Therefore, This is the FIRST TIME the secret of the HEAVEN YUAN PLATE has been disclosed to the public within the English Speaking community. Never has this secret been revealed! In time to come, if any of the teacher teaching this piece of information and they are not coming from our establishment, you know well that the knowledge that they acquired are secondary and less authentic. Truly, there are too many rubbish floating around in disguise as genuine FengShui courses. Buyers beware!
One OldFox has this to say, “To answer your question posted at the beginning of this thread, the original SanYuan YinYang is the one on the right, the B version, because the YinYang allocation is based on the YinYang of the SanYuan of the Tian Yuan, Di Yuan and Ren Yuan. The version on the left, the A version, was promoted by Master Shen JuReng used in his Flying Star and it is based on the YinYang of the Stems and Branches plus the four diagonal Trigams of the LH arrangement being all Yang according to the Hetu arrangement. They are two different ways to express the same philosophical idea of ‘Early Heaven being the Ti or the Principle and Later Heaven being the Yong or the Application 先天为体, 后天为用. IMHO, to really appreciate the different Yin YangYang and Yang YinYin configurations, one has to realize that the different FengShui methods, and there are many, are the result of different ways to express a philosophical preference 'mechanically', to say that 'ShenJuReng's postulation is not quite there yet', shows you and David have yet to reach this point of understanding, but this is just my personal opinion, no offence is intended. May be you do know but want to keep it as a secret until we can attend your classes to find out, or maybe you and David just want to tease us! Either way it is a good thing, it keeps us thinking. Thank you for your contribution… Where are the 3 rings of the SanHe and SanYuan LuoPan? There you go again, 'the pot calling the kettle black' ´by JT the Just Teasing, who is really David Yak the architect with a fake name. Only the SanHe LuoPan has the 3 Twenty-four-Mountain rings, SanYuan LuoPan only has one and the 3 SanYuan are built into the one ring, you will only waste your time looking for the other two rings in a San Yuan LuoPan. Get YOUR fundamentals right before you tell others to get theirs right! Indeed, there are plenty of craps being taught out there...”
EH AS PRINCIPLE LH AS APPLICATION 先天为体后天为用
Let’s investigate these craps a little…
The original version of SanYuan’s YinYang Dragon is not the B version. It is definitely not based on Tian Yuan, Di Yuan and Ren Yuan. These came very much later. They have another meanings to them. The A version is the original SanYuan’s YinYang Dragon. This is the Tian Yuan Dragon and its YinYang is derived from the LoShu, Early Heaven as the body or the Principle, 先天为体. Shen JuReng derived such as his basis for Shen’s Flying Star and it is based on the YinYang of the Stems and Branches plus the four diagonal Trigams of the LH arrangement being all Yang according to the Hetu arrangement (detail read HERE). This is a typical text-book answer.
ONE GUA CONNECTS QI NAJIA ONE QI 一挂同氣納甲一氣.
Similar to its SanHe forerunner, SanYuan has its peculiar way to subscribe to Early Heaven as the body or the Principle and Later Heaven as the Application, 先天为体, 后天为用. Both SanHe and SanYuan subscribed to the same method of decoding Heaven’s secret called NaJia. SanHe is well known to adopt what is known as One Gua same/combine Qi, NaJia singular Qi, 一挂同氣納甲一氣. One Gua here referred to Early Heaven Qi connection to formulate their YinYang dragon, detail read HERE. Therefore, it has mislead many that SanHe NaJia is based on Early Heaven as Principle.
HEAVEN YUAN NAJIA PLATE 天元纳甲盘
SanYuan subscribed to NaJia to allocate the 8 Gua into the 24 mountains. Instead of using One Gua same/combine Qi, NaJia singular Qi, 一挂同氣納甲一氣 principle liked its predecessor, SanYuan uses LoShu matching the Later Heaven BaGua as Application, 后天为用. Therefore, these sets of the 9 stars (comprising the LaterHeaven BaGua) form what is probably known as 天元纳甲盘. Each star is repeated 4 or 2 times forming 6 mountain groups within the 24 mountains such as the followings: -
1 - 子辰申癸, 6 - 甲乾, water
2 - 乙坤, 7 - 酉丑丁巳, fire
3 - 卯未亥庚, 8 - 艮丙 wood
4 - 辛巽, 9 - 午戌寅亥 metal
With each of the 4 elements balanced, these form the original SanYuan 9 stars ring within the 24 mountains. Again, you will notice that it is the LoShu matching the Later Heaven BaGua to derive NaJia as Application, 后天为用 and not the LoShu matching Early Heaven BaGua as the body or the Principle, 先天为体. Saying thus in application, the HeTu GuaQi is still accounted for.
EARTH YUAN PLATE 地元盘
We recap, from this version A we derived the NaJia 9 stars ring 天元纳甲盘. There is also a subsequent Earth Yuan Plate 地元盘, that we shall not disclose. From here, the next layer, we shall discuss about the different Yin YangYang and Yang YinYin configurations that form the so called modern SanYuan earth plate 24 YinYang Dragon 三元盘阴阳龙 as shown in version B (we shall discuss about it in detail some other time).
SANYUAN 3 NEEDLES 三元三盘
One SanYuan school advocated that there are 3 needles in the SanYuan LuoPan just liked its counterpart SanHe. These needles are the Heaven Human and Earth needles. They are meant to measure different things. As mentioned above, the original SanYuan YinYang Dragon is called the Heaven Needle as in version A while the contemporary SanYuan YinYang Dragon is called the Human Needle as in version B. What is absent is known as the Earth Needle. Without knowing this Earth needle, one will not able to measure earth Qi, thus not able to do FengShui… This SanYuan School in particular reckoned that the current known SanYuan earth plate 24 YinYang Dragon 三元盘阴阳龙 is not really the earth plate but the HUMAN plate instead…
OLD FOX SEE OLD FOX DO...
So, when OldFox says, “May be you do know but want to keep it as a secret until we can attend your classes to find out, or maybe you and David just want to tease us!”, reflects truly that the OldFox knows nuts about this subject, especially true when he says, “Only the SanHe LuoPan has the 3 Twenty-four-Mountain rings, SanYuan LuoPan only has one and the 3 SanYuan are built into the one ring…”. As it is OldFox needs to - “Get YOUR fundamentals right before you tell others to get theirs right! Indeed, there are plenty of craps being taught out there...”
As for the other friend from Indonesia, you will be glad to hear that SanYuan people also advocated LoShu matching the Later Heaven BaGua to derive NaJia as Application, 后天为用 but it is used in other unique ways.
SANYUAN YUANKONG GEOMANCY 三元元空風水
SanYuan is a school heavily annexed to the system of calendric sciences one being known as SanYuan QiMen DunJia 三元奇门遁甲. As time passes, the authentic art of SYQMDJ has been watered down. With the emergence of master liked Jiang DaHung notably bastardizing the work of grandmaster Yang YunSong as in DiLi BianZhen, XuanKong DaGua 玄空大卦 emerged to replace SanYuan DaGua 三元大卦. At one level, SanYuan is able to merge with SanHe. SanHe has remained to be the fore runner of YangGong method. All FengShui methods come from Qing WuZi before GuoPu and subsequently Yang YunSong. There is only one method – YangGong method or probably known also as GanZhou method. Subsequently, splinter group forms and SanYuan school was born and probably known also as FuJian method. SanYuan school is developed upon SanHe theories and at certain level, it merges.